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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristineJ View Post
    It is not that difficult to increase fibre with good real veg. The problem is with todays 'modern' families and eating on the hoof proper meals are not being prepared on the grounds that people do not have time.

    I have read Zoe's article on fibre and concur with her research.

    Those who eat more carb meals than fat may have a bit more fibre from the type of veg, grains, beans and oats they may choose but those who have fat meals can also have natural occurring fibre from the list of veg and berry fruits on offer also.

    THD is not a NO carb or NO fibre WOE.
    Well said - I like to get my carbs and fibre from vegetables, in preference to fruit or starchy sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justbecoz View Post
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    Fibre is one of the 3 biggest cons.

    1. Fibre - basically if something is waste and the body expels it as waste, it’s unlikely to be of much use to the body
    2. Non animal milk - it’s not milk, it has little if any nutritional value
    3. Soya milk - see 2

    It’s a scam for manufacturers to sell their waste by-products for commercial benefit via spurious claims that it’s healthy.

    I think I eat almost zero fibre? I’m almost carnivore. I eat meat, eggs, full fat cream, cheese and 85% chocolate. I occasionally have berries.

    I have a bowel cancer self check kit arriving from the NHS in the next 2 weeks (initiative for all 60+ apparently). I’m not anticipating any issues.
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    The only thing I wonder about fibre is the angle about it being food for the microbiome within us. I completely buy the argument that it doesn't provide nourishment to humans directly but I wonder whether it nevertheless benefits us to consume it. I've never seen this fully debunked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJDW View Post
    The only thing I wonder about fibre is the angle about it being food for the microbiome within us. I completely buy the argument that it doesn't provide nourishment to humans directly but I wonder whether it nevertheless benefits us to consume it. I've never seen this fully debunked.
    I can only contribute to that via N=1, and it doesn’t seem to be causing me issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindam View Post
    I can only contribute to that via N=1, and it doesn’t seem to be causing me issues.
    Same for most of us really - and were I on your diet, you wouldn't want to share a bathroom with me! Nuff said - and I will continue to eat my green things. But definitely not beige things, and definitely not because they do or don't contain fibre.

    TBH - and this will definitely be TMI for the sensitive - if your waste products leave your body regularly (for you, not matron), do not require a half-hour reading the newspaper, nor a very quick dash as soon as you get the idea, do not require half a roll of loo paper (or worse, wet wipes), and no blood is involved - then I would suggest that what you are eating suits your body perfectly. If not, then maybe consider tweaking your diet, but only if not! And first port of call for constipation should be water, not bloody cardboard foods.. (that bloody was an expletive btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah(sjc) View Post
    Same for most of us really - and were I on your diet, you wouldn't want to share a bathroom with me! Nuff said - and I will continue to eat my green things. But definitely not beige things, and definitely not because they do or don't contain fibre.

    TBH - and this will definitely be TMI for the sensitive - if your waste products leave your body regularly (for you, not matron), do not require a half-hour reading the newspaper, nor a very quick dash as soon as you get the idea, do not require half a roll of loo paper (or worse, wet wipes), and no blood is involved - then I would suggest that what you are eating suits your body perfectly. If not, then maybe consider tweaking your diet, but only if not! And first port of call for constipation should be water, not bloody cardboard foods.. (that bloody was an expletive btw)
    Yes, I’m regular as clockwork, with no discomfort nor large investment of time on the task. I’ve got a happy bottom! Hubby is a huge eater of veg
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJDW View Post
    The only thing I wonder about fibre is the angle about it being food for the microbiome within us. I completely buy the argument that it doesn't provide nourishment to humans directly but I wonder whether it nevertheless benefits us to consume it. I've never seen this fully debunked.
    When they 'consume' fibre, bacteria produce short chain fatty acids (such as butyrate), which are good for us - it's a similar principle for gorillas and cows: they are essentially eating a high fat diet.

    Nonetheless, I think getting fibre from whole grains has far too many disadvantages (directly and indirectly) and the fibre we get from vegetables is enough.

    With respect to people who don't have vegetables in their diets, butyrate is found in dairy foods like butter. I don't know if it's in other animal fats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindam View Post
    Yes, I’m regular as clockwork, with no discomfort nor large investment of time on the task. I’ve got a happy bottom! Hubby is a huge eater of veg
    Delighted to hear it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JacquiC View Post
    They didn't say either how the fibre helped...
    They likely can't as there will be too many confounding variables in another crap study!
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