If we avoid dairy products in Phase 1, how is NLY OK?

Q) If we avoid dairy products in Phase 1, how is NLY OK?

A) Great Q on the dairy/Natural Live Yoghurt – I can’t believe I haven’t had that one before!

Phase 1 came about by looking at the ‘perfect diets’ for Candida, Food Intolerance and Hypoglycaemia and then trying to design a diet that would be optimal for all 3. The diets were very consistent in some areas and differed in others. (Even the diets for Candida vary – Trowbridge & Walker advise differently to Crook and Chaitow is slightly different again). The compromise I went for, in designing Phase 1, was to allow NLY as it is so beneficial for Candida and there is much evidence (see below) that even people with lactose intolerance don’t have problems with yoghurt. Add to this that I have seen 1 or 2 clients with lactose intolerance and about 99% with wheat intolerance and you decide that NLY is a very low risk. And it adds so much variety and enjoyment to those tough 5 days!

“Yogurt containing live active bacteria is believed to improve lactose digestion for the same reason that probiotics are thought to work. When yogurt is consumed, bile acids disrupt the cell wall of the bacteria in yogurt. This releases the enzyme beta-galactosidase (related to lactase) into the intestines, where it can enhance lactose digestion. Not any yogurt will do. It must contain live active bacteria.

Although yogurt is a milk product, many people with lactose intolerance do not experience symptoms after eating yogurt, even the kind that doesn’t contain live active bacteria.”


 

(Source: http://altmedicine.about.com/od/healthconditionsdisease/a/lactose_intoler.htm )

6 thoughts on “If we avoid dairy products in Phase 1, how is NLY OK?

  • 14th February 2010 at 10:41 am
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    Hello, I am really enjoying having NLY for breakfast but find it really hard to stop eating it – I buy Onken and find myself polishing off the whole tub of 450 grams for breakfast! I’m only on day 3 of Phase 1 so not sure what quantities I should be aiming for – any advice?

    Many thanks
    Markella

  • 14th February 2010 at 10:41 am
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    Hi, NLY seems to be a problem for me. When I eat NLY it seems to cause me to feel rough the next day. I wake with a ‘hot’ throat (not quite a sore throat but definitely something up), my tongue is furry, I have too much mucus and no energy. I have just been on the ZHD for 16 days. Within thattime I avoided NLY for several days. I had headaches and lethargy for a a few days and then felt steadily better. Then I ate a 500ml pot of Yeo Valley full fat NLY split between Sunday and Monday. Monday I felt a little below par and today I feel rubbish. (This is nothing new to me but is the main reason I am trying the ZHD). The only change to my routine and diet has been the addition of NLY and one half litre pot has takeen me all the way back.

    Reading Zoe’s answer above to why NLY is included in Phase 1 when all other forms of dairy are eliminated, I see that she refers to ‘lactose intolerance’ rather than ‘dairy intolerance’. This indicates I have a form of dairy intolerance other than lactose intolerance e.g. casein.

    At least now I know but must admit to feeling disappointed!

    Has anyone else felt like this with NLY?

  • 14th February 2010 at 10:41 am
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    Hi, I am NOT lactose intolerant, but I am allergic to fresh cream – my symptoms started as what you describe as ‘hot throat’, and swiftly turned into full blown allergy where my throat closes within minutes of eating fresh cream. I have slight ‘hot throat’ after I eat a LOT of NLY. Some NLY eg Fage Total contains fresh cream. Check the ingredients of your NLY. Also, for me, 500 ml of NLY is quite a lot at one sitting – that volume of any NLY would make my throat hot. I’m fine with smaller amounts. Start keeping a detailed record of how NLY affects you and in what quantities BUT be very careful – a full blown allergy can be dangerous. Good luck with it. 🙂

  • 14th February 2010 at 10:41 am
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    Hi, I think it is the nature of intolerances and allergies – we crave what we are intolerant to – so your blatant ignoring of facts so that you didn’t have to give up lactose doesn’t surprise me at all. In my case I have always avoided fresh cream – but from the ‘high fat/bad for you’ perspective. I only discovered my allergy whilst on THD because it’s the only time I felt able to eat it. Ironic or what? 🙂

  • 14th February 2010 at 10:41 am
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    Lindam: Hi, I am NOT lactose intolerant, but I am allergic to fresh cream – my symptoms started as what you describe as ‘hot throat’, and swiftly turned into full blown allergy where my throat closes within minutes of eating fresh cream. I have slight ‘hot throat’ after I eat a LOT of NLY. Some NLY eg Fage Total contains fresh cream. Check the ingredients of your NLY. Also, for me, 500 ml of NLY is quite a lot at one sitting – that volume of any NLY would make my throat hot. I’m fine with smaller amounts. Start keeping a detailed record of how NLY affects you and in what quantities BUT be very careful – a full blown allergy can be dangerous. Good luck with it. 🙂

    Hi Lindam, Thanks very much for writing and for the warning. Your allergy sounds serious and scary. I wonder what it is in cream that you are allergic to. Do I understand correctly that this allergy is something fairly recent?

    My own NLY binge was actually a 500ml litre pot over 2 days – half each day. It was Yeo Valley and the only ingredient was milk. But you make a good point. Had I eaten just a mini pot per day I wuold just have felt a little below par, no more.

    Now I am going to try a 5-day Phase 1 with no NLY (or any other form of dairy). If I feel good at the end of that I shall leave my expermentation there and just avoid all dairy, cow at least.

    This is actually all my own fault. A few years ago when I was feeling below par a friend suggested I took a food intolerance test. I took a Napier Dispensary food sensitivity test http://www.napiers.net/food-sensitivity-testing.html which said I was dairy intolerant and recommended eliminating dairy for a month. I did and the results were amazing. Within about a week I felt better that I had felt for years and another week later I felt better than I had felt in my whole life. But for some reason I still did not accept that it was dairy. Eliminating dairy entails elimintaing virtually all processed food as lactose is used in so much. I gave the credit to eliminating processed food rather than dairy. Also, I thought the way I felt might be down to the new exercise regime I started at the same time or simply the hope that I had from finding a potential solution. So I became less strict about dairy and before I knew it a splash of milk in my coffee became butter on my toast and then a cream cake and then … How stupid! It’s time for a total elimination again.

    Thanks again for writing!

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